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Old Nov 26, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53   #1
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Default More non-human Heroes please!

Lets face it, humans in RPGs are usually the most boring race you can have.

When MOX was released I loved the prospect of one more member in my multi-race party. Him being a golem was just icing.
But heck, it isn't all about my personal preference. Having Heroes of different races would allow ANet to easily tell us or hint at the future of these races, through (hopefully interesting) sidequests similar to MOX. And who isn't interested in the future of the Forgotten, Tengu, Dredge, or other major races in Tyria? I know some won't give a toss either way, but it would be nice to find out.(Especially for the Forgotten, lots of hubbub in the Desert in GW2 by the sounds of it, how do they react?)

I know the GW Devs have lots on their plate and something like this is pretty low priority and lots of work, but it would still be pretty nice to see them pay a bit more attention to some of the cool races inhabiting the world.

P.S. The following classes have only humans reps:
Mesmer
Necro
Assassin
Paragon

P.S.S. I'm not sure if these Heroes would be allowed for PvP, for the same reasons MOX isn't - height/bulk in particular.

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Old Nov 26, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41   #2
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I've been waiting for a Tengu hero ever since heroes were introduced! I know i'm not the only one who'd love to have a Tengu in their party. I could definitely see a Tengu hero being an assassin...

MOX coming out after it being so long since new content made me think it was possible there'd be more new heroes in future but I don't want to get my hopes up...
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57   #3
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Non-human paragon....hrm. Not sure that would work very well.

I'd like more non-human heroes so my party doesn't get affected as much by disease all the damn time, and Zhed annoys the ever-loving crap out of me. I guess that's what Vekk is for.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58   #4
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WTB Forgotten Paragon hero. More content is always good.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 04:14 AM // 04:14   #5
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WTB Forgotten Paragon hero. More content is always good.

WTB Ghostly Paragon Hero..
My idea is better.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 04:58 AM // 04:58   #6
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Margonite paragon hero, fits PERfectly to the storyline, because the margonites want thier freedom.
Most of them do, I think.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 05:10 AM // 05:10   #7
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WTB Forgotten Paragon hero. More content is always good.
Won't work. Forgotten are caster-only.

There is room for 4 more professions:
Mesmer
Paragon
Assassin
Ritualist

What I see, in profession to species is:
Mesmer: Tengu (Queztal/Avicara) or Forgotten
Paragon: Margonite (I want The Lost!)
Assassin: Dredge
Ritualist: Forgotten or Tengu (Angchu)

Of course Forgotten/Angchu are mutually exclusive.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 05:34 AM // 05:34   #8
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Won't work. Forgotten are caster-only.

I am curious as to why the non caster forgotten take on the different form.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forgotten_Champion

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forgotten_Avenger

it does say that the species is "Enchanted" that might be it however unlike the enchanted, they leave exploitable corpses.

they are definitely separate from the enchanted bow and enchanted swords.

But i agree that a margonite would make the best paragon. with the wings and all. The margonite should also be lvl 24 just because Ive never seen a margonite less than lvl 24.


But having a margonite and a forgotten in your party??? thats a bigger conflict than Gwen and Pyre.

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Old Nov 26, 2008, 05:42 AM // 05:42   #9
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forgotten mes
margonite paragon
tengu assassin
and for rit,Razah isnt human really so we have a non-human rit,though he does look like a human so i guess another wouldnt hurt,no clue what it would be though..
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 05:56 AM // 05:56   #10
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and for rit,Razah isnt human really so we have a non-human rit,though he does look like a human so i guess another wouldnt hurt,no clue what it would be though..
Razah is, by story, a demon, not human. But, as I've learned recently while vanquishing, he is considered human by game mechanics and contracts/gives disease as any human would. However, I've never bothered to see if anyone like Pyre/Vekk/Zhed/etc would do the same or not. I think the fact that Razah was in my party and not some strolling NPC might be why he diseased.

On discussion now: Yeah, I've been wanting mroe non-human heroes since Zhed, and Pyre isn't helping any. I'd have a tengu for an assassin, margonite for a paragon, forgotten for a mesmer, and djinn for a ritualist or dervish. Don't know about any others.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 05:59 AM // 05:59   #11
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well, enchanted spëar as para hero...
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04   #12
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I am curious as to why the non caster forgotten take on the different form.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forgotten_Champion

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forgotten_Avenger

it does say that the species is "Enchanted" that might be it however unlike the enchanted, they leave exploitable corpses.

they are definitely separate from the enchanted bow and enchanted swords.
The Enchanted are not Forgotten. They are Constructs, like the Jade Armor/Bow and the Shiro'ken. The Enchanted Armors (I call them Enchanted Armor as to not confuse with the Enchanted Weapons in EN) are pieces of armor that were animated.

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and for rit,Razah isnt human really so we have a non-human rit,though he does look like a human so i guess another wouldnt hurt,no clue what it would be though..
Ritualist is needed to finish the "3 of each profession" concept. And however much I like Razah, we need a true non-human. Not a demonic entity that is extremely like a human that is also considered human by game mechanics.

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However, I've never bothered to see if anyone like Pyre/Vekk/Zhed/etc would do the same or not. I think the fact that Razah was in my party and not some strolling NPC might be why he diseased.
They don't, same with Jora and Odgen I think, and like Talon.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 08:52 AM // 08:52   #13
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/Notsigned as long as we can only use 3 heroes at a time.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 09:34 AM // 09:34   #14
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I really don't think we need more heroes honestly, given that we can only use three out of the huge number of them we already have...
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 09:37 AM // 09:37   #15
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/Notsigned as long as we can only use 3 heroes at a time.
Yeah, that.

Btw, why do fanboys tend to ruin a thread?
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 10:10 AM // 10:10   #16
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The Enchanted are not Forgotten. They are Constructs, like the Jade Armor/Bow and the Shiro'ken. The Enchanted Armors (I call them Enchanted Armor as to not confuse with the Enchanted Weapons in EN) are pieces of armor that were animated.
Enchanted dont leave exploitable corpses.. The forgotten champion and forgotten avenger do.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 11:52 AM // 11:52   #17
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Margonite paragon hero, fits PERfectly to the storyline, because the margonites want thier freedom.
Most of them do, I think.
I would then start using a para hero in my team ^^
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51   #18
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Same goes all the way arround.

For each profession, there should be:
- 1 human male
- 1 human female
- 1 non-human.

So, what's left?
- Human female Warrior.
- Human female elementalist.
- Forgotten One Mesmer.
- Dredge Ritualist. They are a short-sighted race, almost blind. Blind fits ritualist.
- Tengu Assassin. Sharp claws.
- Undead or Margonite Paragon.

With that, we'll get 1 hero for each non-primary attribute of every profession, and it would be perfect then.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45   #19
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Won't work. Forgotten are caster-only.

There is room for 4 more professions:
Mesmer
Paragon
Assassin
Ritualist

What I see, in profession to species is:
Mesmer: Tengu (Queztal/Avicara) or Forgotten
Paragon: Margonite (I want The Lost!)
Assassin: Dredge
Ritualist: Forgotten or Tengu (Angchu)

Of course Forgotten/Angchu are mutually exclusive.

Well he would obviously be a rebellious "forgotten?" that got kicked out of Caster Academy for shouting and throwing sticks at the other students. He then was forced to join up with humans to prove his worth and that Forgotten can be rough and tough physical characters to.


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Old Nov 26, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16   #20
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/Notsigned as long as we can only use 3 heroes at a time.
We still can't have 3-paragon, 3-mesmer, 3-assassin, 3-ritualist hero teams o.o
I really don't care about races.
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